Generally, my blog is a happy place. But not today, friends.

Today, I am sick at heart. I’ve been following the Sandra Bland arrest case with an equal measure of shock and dread. The idea that a young woman can be pulled over for not signaling a lane change and end up dead in a jail cell days later is beyond grotesque.

So when the dashcam video was released by the Texas Dept of Public Safety, on July 21, 2015, I wanted to take a careful look.

{NOTE: The video uploaded by the Texas Department of Public Safety was taken off youtube after 1 day and over a million views. You can still find the uncut version, though, here.)

I was especially concerned when I found Ben Norton‘s keen observation that the video had been altered at key points when the arresting officer, Brian Encinia, is speaking to someone (likely his supervisor) about the arrest over the phone. The alterations seem to occur when Encinia is making a case for himself as the assault victim of Sandra Bland. It is possible new audio clips were added later over top of the looped video in order to make a better case for Encinia’s trumped up charge of assault on a public officer.

The Texas Department of Public Safety insists that the inconsistencies were on account of glitches that occurred when uploading the video. Here is the new video uploaded by the Texas Department of Public Safety. It is 49 minutes and 11 seconds — several minutes SHORTER than their original version:

I have lined up the originally uploaded video by the Texas Department of Public Safety (left) and the “newly” edited version of the video (right). They start out at the exact same point, but by the end, there is a three minute difference.

This inconsistency may be caused by the video in the originally uploaded file becoming out of sync with the audio. So, in the video first uploaded by the Texas DPS, the glitches extended the video for about three minutes (to 52 minutes), while the audio remained at about 49 minutes.

Since the speakers are off camera for most of the second half of the video, it is difficult to determine whether or not the visual is out of sync with the audio. With that in mind, I checked both videos for sounds from the environment that might indicate which file matches up (particularly at points in the film after the visual glitches occurred). There was a particular point at the end of the video when you could hear the trunk of Mrs. Bland’s car being shut by a police officer. That sound matched the visuals in second file uploaded by the Texas DPS, but not the first.

To better understand what was happening in the case, I have transcribed the first half of the original video to the best of my ability and highlighted in red the audio surrounding the looped video footage.

At the start,  Brian Encinia lets a college sophomore who was speeding off with a warning and tells her to email her father to get a copy of her insurance. The sound goes off after Encinia returns to his car, but the dashcam video continues.

We see Encinia pass Bland’s car, which has turned from a side street and is heading in the opposite direction. Encinia makes a U-turn and accelerates through the 20 mile per hour zone until he is directly behind Bland’s vehicle. Bland switches from the left lane to the right lane, and Encinia pulls her over. The sound is restored at that point (2:03), and we hear a bit of chatter from the police radio. He walks over to the passenger side of the car. I have roughly transcribed the confrontation below, which begins at 2:40:

Encinia: Hello, ma’am.

Bland: Hi.

Encinia: (Garbled.) The reason for your stop is that you didn’t fail, you failed to signal the lane change. Got your drivers license and insurance with you? … What’s wrong?

Bland: (Inaudible)

Encinia: How long you been in Texas?

Bland: I got here yesterday.

Encinia: Okay. (chatter from radio) Do you have a driver’s license?

Bland: I didn’t give you my driver’s license?

Encinia: No, ma’am. …

Bland: (inaudible)

Encinia: Yeah, okay. (chatter from radio) Okay. Where you headed to now?

Bland: (inaudible)

Encinia: Okay. Give me a few minutes, alright?

Encinia then walks back to the car at 4:02, and enters the squad car. We hear static and some radio chatter until 8:33, when Encinia approaches the driver’s side of the car with the paperwork for a ticket or warning. 

Encinia: Okay, ma’am. You okay?

Bland: I’m waiting on you, you, this is your job. I’m waiting on you, whatever you want me to do.

Encinia: Well, you seem very irritated.

Bland: I am. I really am because I feel it’s crap for what I’m getting a ticket for. I was getting out of your way. You were speeding up, tailing me, so I move over and you stop me. So yeah, I am a little irritated, but that doesn’t stop you from giving me a ticket. So (inaudible) irritated.

[Bland’s account of the events line up perfectly with the dashcam video of Encinia’s pursuit. Also, I note that in under 20 seconds of retuning to his car after his encounter with the speeding sophomore, Encinia had sighted Bland’s car and started following her. It seems entirely possible that he was going to find some reason to pull over the next car that passed, which was Bland’s.)

Encinia: Are you done?

Bland: You asked me what was wrong, and I told you.

[Again, Bland makes a good point. She isn’t raging at Encinia. He made an issue of the fact that she was irritated, and without yelling or using bad language (crap doesn’t really count in my book), she truthfully explained why she was upset.]

Encinia: Okay.

Bland: So now I’m done, yeah.

Encinia: Okay…. You mind putting out your cigarette, please. (Inaudible) mind.

[Tone is important here: the “sss” of please is stressed, as if the officer is holding back his own irritation. Also, it seems that his request for her to put out her cigarette is a thinly veiled power-play. She was likely smoking to help her keep calm during the 4 1/2 minute wait. After her statement about why his actions upset her, he is not only trying to get her to do his will by putting out the cigarette, but he is also trying to take away a source of comfort for her.

Encinia is a rookie cop. Perhaps he expects to be adored for giving people tickets. He did recently transition from the beloved position of fire chief to the deplored position of traffic cop, so maybe he’s not used to people being less than thrilled with receiving a ticket for some minor charge. He knows that he’s only giving her a warning, but she doesn’t at this point. Whatever the cause, the fact that Bland is responding to him with truth, not deference, clearly irks him, and his responses seem to be driven more by his ego than concern for public safety.]

Bland: I’m in my car. Why do I have to put out my cigarette?

Encinia: Well, you can step on out now.

[Continued power play. Translation: “I assert DOMINANCE.” Great job ‘de-escalating’ the situation, officer.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that an officer may order someone who is stopped for a traffic violation get out of the car for the sake of the safety of the officer. I wonder, though, what safety concern Encinia had in mind when he demanded that Bland get out of her car. How exactly was he concerned with his safety or the safety of the public? Just because he has a legal right to do it doesn’t make it the right thing to do.]

Bland: I don’t have to step out of my car.

Encinia: Step out of the car.

Bland: Why am I–?

Encinia: [opening door] Step out of the car.

Bland: No, you don’t. You don’t have the right–

Encinia: STEP OUT OF THE CAR.

Bland: You do not have the right to do that.

Encinia: I do have the right. Now, step out or I will remove you.

Bland: I refuse to talk to you other than to identify myself and–

Encinia: Step out or I will remove you.

Bland: I’m getting removed for a failure to signal?

Encinia: Step out of I will remove you. I’m giving you a lawful order. Get out of the car now or I’m gonna remove you.

Bland: I’m (inaudible) and I’m calling my lawyer–

[The smart thing here would have been to allow Bland to call her lawyer, who surely would have told her that Encinia has the right to ask her to step out of the car, but not to search the car without her permission or a warrant. Instead this is what Encinia does…]

Encinia: [reaching in the car] I’m gonna yank you out of here.

Bland: Okay, you’re going to yank me out of my car. Okay.

Encinia: (calls on radio for backup)

Bland: Alright. Let’s do this.

Encinia: Yeah, we’re going to. [reaching for what appears to be Bland’s head, and being swatted away]

Bland: Don’t touch me.

Encinia: GET OUT OF THE CAR.

Bland: Don’t touch me. I’m not under arrest. You don’t have the right to– take me out of the car.

Encinia: [interrupting] You are under arrest.

[Here Encinia makes a FALSE ARREST. Bland has explained to him why she is upset (which is protected by free speech) and she has refused to put out her cigarette (which he has no right to make her do). She has refused to exit the car because she clearly believes it’s her legal right to do so. Is that justification for arrest? And if so, why didn’t Encinia cite it on his report?]

Bland: I’m under arrest for what? For what? (pause) For what?

Encinia: Get out of the car. Get out of the car, now!

[Note to  Brian Encinia: “Get out of the car” does not actually answer the question “I’m under arrest for what?”]

Bland: Why am I being apprehended? You’re trying to give me a ticket for failure–

Encinia: I said, get out of the car.

[Again, not an answer.]

Bland: Why am I being apprehended?

Encinia: I am giving you a lawful order.

[Not an answer.]

Bland: You opened my car door. You opened my car door–

Encinia: I am going to drag you out of here.

[Definitely not an answer.]

Bland: So you’re threatening to drag me out of my own car.

Encinia: GET OUT OF THE CAR! [threatening with taser]

Bland: And then you gonna stun me?

Encinia: I will light you up! GET OUT! [continuing to point taser]

Bland: Wow.

Encinia: NOW!

Bland: Wow. [Bland exits the car.]

Encinia: GET OUT OF THE CAR!

Bland: Really, for a failure to signal? You’re doing all this for a failure to signal? [with cell phone]

Encinia: Get over there.

Bland: Right, yeah. Yeah, let’s take this to court. Let’s do this. [Walks out of view.]

Encinia: Go ahead. [Walks out of view.]

Bland: For a failure to signal. Yep. For a failure to signal!

Encinia: Get off the phone.

Bland: (inaudible, sounds like “From my school!”)

Encinia: Get off the phone.

Bland: I’m not on the phone. I have a right–

Encinia: Put your phone down.

Bland: — to record. This is my property.

Encinia: Put your phone down.

Bland: — property. Sir?

[The tone of Sandra Bland’s voice here is distinctly different, but she and Encinia are both off screen, so it’s unclear why. One might suppose that he has pulled out either his gun or the taser due to what follows.]

Encinia: Put your phone down, right now! Put your phone down.

[Bland walks into the video frame and sets her phone on the trunk of her car. Encinia, also in the frame, appears to be holding something pointed at her.The last time he says “put your phone down,” Encinia uses a markedly softer tone, as if he doesn’t need to yell anymore, perhaps because his taser is yet again talking for him.]

Bland: So fucking failure to (inaudible– probably signal) my (inaudible)

Encinia: Come over here.

[Notice how Encinia has stripped Bland of anything that might indicate her autonomy–first her cigarette, then her car, now her phone; however, he is still making commands of her. He now wants her to stand here instead of there. Why exactly is that? Once she complies with one command, he issues another, and all because of the source incident: she didn’t like the fact that he was giving her a ticket and she told him so. What offended Encinia so much in the first place is Bland’s exercise of her free speech.

Note also that Encinia later claims when speaking to his supervisor on the phone that he repeatedly tried to calm Bland down. His words, however, show NO indication of trying to calm Bland or set her at ease. Instead, he issues one senseless command after another.]

Bland: Ya’ll are interesting, very interesting.

Encinia: Come over here right now.

Bland: You feeling good about yourself?

Encinia: Stand right here.

Bland: You feeling good about yourself?

Encinia: Stand right there.

Bland: For a failure to signal. You feel real good about yourself, don’t you?

Encinia: Turn around. Turn around.

[Translation: “I’m going to keep issuing orders until I can figure out why I told you to get out of your car in the first place.”]

Bland: You feel good about yourself, don’t you?

Encinia: Turn around now.

Bland: What are you– Why are…?

Encinia: Put your hands behind your back and turn around.

Bland: Why am I being arrested?

Encinia: Turn around.

Bland: Why can’t you tell me why–

Encinia: I’m giving you a lawful order. I will tell you.

[Why does Encinia not tell Bland at this point that he was simply issuing a warning and after signing the warning she would be free to go? If he generally wanted to calm her down, that information may have instantly diffused the situation.]

Bland: Why am I being arrested?

Encinia: Turn around.

Bland: Why don’t you tell me that part?

Encinia: I’m giving you a lawful order. Turn around.

Bland: Why will you not tell me–

Encinia: You are not compliant.

Bland: I’m not compliant because you just pulled me out of my car.

Encinia: Turn around.

Bland: Are you fucking kidding me? This is some bullshit. (Inaudible.)

Encinia: Put your hands behind your back.

Bland: Cause you know this is straight bullshit. Man, you full of shit. You full of straight shit. That’s all ya’ll (inaudible) some scared fucking cops.(Inaudible. Sounds like “South Carolina got your bitch ass in jail.”) That’s all it is. Fucking scared of a female.

Encinia: If you would just listen.

[Listen to what, exactly? Him ordering her where to stand and how to stand?]

Bland: I was trying to sign the fucking ticket. Whatever.

Encinia: Stop moving.

Bland: Are you fucking serious? Oh, I can’t wait ’til we go to court. Ooh, I can’t wait. I cannot wait ’til we go to court! I can’t wait. Ooh, I can’t wait. You want me to sit down now?

Enicinia: No.

Bland: Or are you going to throw me to the floor? That’ll make you feel better about yourself?

Encinia: Knock it off.

Bland: Nah, that’ll make you feel better about yourself? That’ll make you feel real good, won’t it? Pus, yeah. Fucking pussy. For a failure to signal, you doing all of this. And (inaudible)

Encinia: You were getting a warning, until now. You’re going to jail.

[Note: Bland has done nothing at this point to assault Encinia, yet in his report (below), the reason for arrest is “assaulting a public officer.” At the point that he announces she’s going to jail, she has done nothing except express free speech (cursing is covered) and ask why she’s being arrested? Up to this point, he has also not tried to ‘de-escalate’ the situation by telling her that he has no intention of arresting her. In fact, he told her that she is under arrest before she got out of the car–long, long before there could be any question of “assault” on her part. It’s clear Brian Encinia has no idea what he is doing, except to respond to his own anger at Bland’s voiced displeasure at being ticketed and her refusal to put out a cigarette.]

Bland: Oh, for what? For what?

Encinia: You can come read right– [re-entering frame, pointing for Bland to move toward car trunk]

Bland: I’m getting a warning for what? For what?

Encinia: Stay right here.

Bland: For what? Well, you just pointed me over there.

Encinia: I said, stay right here.

Bland: Get your fucking mouth right. Let me (inaudible). A pussy ass cop, for a fucking signal, you (inaudible) to jail. What a pussy. What a pussy. What a — You’re about to break my fucking wrist.

Encinia: Stop moving.

Bland: I’m standing still. You’re pulling me, God damn it.

Encinia: Stay right there. [Leaving to go to Bland’s car.]

Bland: Don’t touch me. Fucking pussy (inaudible).

[Encinia closes the driver side door of Bland’s car, walks around the trunk and points at the paperwork he was serving Encinia with.]

Encinia: Come with me right over here. This right here says a warning. You started creating the problem.

Bland: You asked me what was wrong. I’m try to tell–

Encinia: Do you anything on your person that’s illegal?

Bland: Do I feel like I got anything on me? This is a fucking maxi dress.

Encinia: I’m going to remove your glasses.

Bland: This is a maxi dress. (inaudible)

Encinia: Come on over here.

Bland: (inaudible) asshole. You’re about to break my wrist. Can you stop? You’re about to break my wrist. Stop!

Encinia: Stop moving! STOP NOW! STOP IT!

Backup officer: Stop resisting, ma’am.

Bland: Inaudible crying.

Encinia: IF YOU WOULD STOP, THEN I WOULD TELL YOU!

Bland: FOR A FUCKIN’ traffic signal.

Encinia: STOP!

Bland: You’re such a pussy. You are such a pussy.

Backup Officer: No, you are.

[Um, what? The backup officer is calling Bland a pussy? Really? Does anyone train anyone in this department?]

Bland: For a traffic signal.

Encinia: You’re yanking around.

Bland: For a traffic signal?

Encinia: You are yanking around.

Bland: For a fuckin traffic signal.

Encinia: You are yanking around. When you pull away from me, you are resisting arrest!

Bland: This make you feel real good? Does it make you feel real good, don’t it. A female for a traffic signal?

Backup officer: I got her. I got her.

Bland: For a traffic signal?

Backup officer: I got her. I got her.

Bland: I know that make you feel good officer. Ain’t it?

Backup officer: Take care of yourself.

Bland: I know it make you feel real good, you’re a real man now, just slam me. Knocked my head into the ground, I got epilepsy, you motherfucker.

Encinia: Good. Good.

[Wrong answer.]

Backup officer: You should of thought about that before you start resisting.

Bland: [Inaudible/Cross talk] Alright. Alright. Yeah… this is real good. Real good for a female, yeah… y’all strong, …. ya’ll real strong.

Encinia: I want you to wait right here. Wait right here.

Bland: I can’t go nowhere with a fuckin knee in my back!

Encinia: Come open your door.

Backup officer: Okay.

Encinia: You need to leave. You need to leave. You need to leave. [to man who started shooting cell phone video less than 30 seconds before]

Man taking video: I can’t hear you.

Encinia: You need to leave.

Man taking video: Am I on public property?

Bland: Really! Really?

Bland: [Inaudible] Really? Really…. [Inaudible] for a traffic signal.

Encinia: For a warning. For a warning. You’re going to jail.

Bland: Whatever. Whatever.

Encinia: For resisting arrest.

[WHAT?! Translation: “You’re being arrested for resisting arrest.” In what universe does that make sense?]

Bland: Whatever.

Encinia: Stand up.

Bland: Whatever. If I could – I can’t even–

Encinia: Okay, roll over.

Bland: I can’t even fuckin’ feel my arm.

Encinia: Tuck your knee in. Tuck your knee in.

Bland: God damn. I can’t – I can’t

Backup officer: Tuck your knee in. Tuck your knees in front of you.

Encinia: Listen. Listen. You gotta – sit on your butt.

Bland: You just slammed my head into the ground. Do you not even care about that?

Encinia: Sit up on your butt.

Backup Officer: Listen to how he’s telling you to get up.

Bland: I can’t even hear.

Backup officer: Yes you can.

Bland: He slammed my fucking head into the ground.

Encinia: Sit up on your butt. Sit up on your butt. Now stand up.

Bland: What the hell, all for this for a traffic signal? I swear to god. All of this for a traffic signal. [to videotaper] Thank you for recording, thank you. For a traffic signal, slammed me into the ground and everything. Everything. I hope y’all feel good.

Encinia: This officer saw everything.

Bland: (to videotaper) And I’m so glad. (to Backup officer) You just got on the scene. So whatever.

Backup officer: I was– I saw–(inaudible)

Bland: No, you wasn’t – you. No you didn’t.

Backup officer: No, ma’am. I –

Bland: You didn’t see everything (inaudible).

Backup officer: You know, I’m not talking to you –

Bland: You don’t have to. You don’t have to.

Encinia: 25-47 County (on radio).

Dispatcher: Go ahead.

Encinia: Send me a first available for arrest.

Dispatcher: Send any first available wrecker… [Dispatch]

Backup officer: (inaudible)

Encinia: Yeah, I’m good. She started yanking away then kicked me so I took her straight to the ground.

[Sounds pretty proud of himself, doesn’t he?]

Backup officer: Yeah, and there you got it right there. Let me see – I’ll search it for you if you want.

Encinia: Yeah.

Backup officer 2: One thing for sure: it’s on video. You hurt?

Encinia: No.

[NOTE: NOT HURT.]

Encinia: Did you see her when we’re right here.

Backup officer: Yeah, I saw (inaudible) I parked, you know.

Encinia: See? This is when she pulled with the cuffs.

Backup officer 2: Yeah, I know it (inaudible — still?) See, the ring got you there?

Encinia: I had the chain, no not the chain, like uh–

Backup officer 2: You got the two loops.

Encinia: She didn’t kick me too hard. She still kicked me though.

Backup officer 2: You got a mark. It’s not through the skin, but you got a nice scratch.
I’m a paramedic.That’s why–

Encinia: I know you are. That’s why I made you look. (little laugh)

Backup officer 2: She do that?

[inaudible]

Encinia: [to dispatcher] Yeah, at a traffic stop. Had a little bit of an incident.

[Long pause while they police inspect the car and the tower hooks up the car. Around 23:23, Encinia makes a statement, perhaps to someone on the other end of a phone.]

Encinia: (on phone?) … I tried to de-escalate her, and I wasn’t getting anywhere at all. And that, I mean, I tried to tase her away, you know, I tried talking to her, calming her down, and that was not working. (pause) Well, I know, that was when she was in cuffs, and I mean I’m trying to get her detained, get her to calm down, and just you know calm her down, just, stop throwing your arms, stop, you know, whatnot. She never swung at me, but she just, flailing, stomping around, and all kind of stuff, and all right, that’s, that’s enough, and that’s when I detained her. And uh, from there, it started going on. She started kicking and hitting. (pause) So. (pause)

[I’m not sure how Encinia defines “calm her down” exactly. Was that when he continually issued order after order or when he refused to answer he questions about why she was being apprehended? To quote Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride, “I do not think that word means what you think it mean.”]

Encinia (cont’d): Yeah, and once it was all, once I got her in the back of the car, that’s why I’m calling you now, because (pause) No, we’re in the middle. We’re in the middle of the traffic stop. And uh, (inaudible) the traffic stop was not completed. I was trying to get her out over to sign, and you know, just explain to her what was going on, because I couldn’t even– I couldn’t even get to do what I started telling her, I mean she just started going, This is a MF, and you’re in a m-f-ing ticket for a lane change. I mean, she just started going– I just stepped back in the car and was like, Are you done, ma’am? I need to tell you why what I’m giving you, and it just kept on (inaudible). (WEIRD ECHO AND FEEDBACK SOUND STARTS AT THIS POINT) I mean I don’t have serious body injury, heh heh, you know, (weird feedback sound) but I was kicked. (pause, pages rustling, echo intensifies) Assault is if an intentional — Assault is if a person commits the office of intentionally knowing they are recklessly causing bodily injury to another. You intentionally threaten another, imminent (inaudible) including a person’s spouse. (Less echo, pause with lots of rustling sounds, while video keeps looping, ding sound before speech) She’s in the back of the car right now. She requested EMS because, she said I– I threw her down intentionally, for nothing, No, I just put you down because you kicked me, heh heh, you’re–fight back, you know. I kept telling her to calm down, calm down. (Sounds like reading from manual again) Evading arrest or detention. The person… offensive (inaudible) He… will he eventually… Where was that? Oh, resisting arrest, search or transfer -portation, They, uh, the person commits the offense (?) they intentionally prevent or obstruct a person, you know, a police officer, or (inaudible) officer … from arrest, search or transportation. (pause, in response) She was detained. That’s, that’s the key. That’s why I’m calling and asking  because she was detained, okay, when she started, and that’s why I was walking her over to the car, just to calm her down, you know, or just stop. And you know, that’s when she started kicking. So, I mean, I don’t know if it’d be resist or if it’d be assault, you know. I kind of lean toward assault vs. resist. I mean, technically she’s under arrest because the traffic stop was initiated. That’s a lawful stop. You’re not free to go. I never said, “You’re under arrest.” I never said, you know, “Stop. Hands up.”

[WHAT?! Where exactly was Officer Encinia when his body was overtaken by an alien who yelled “YOU ARE UNDER ARREST!” at Sandra Bland?]

Encinia (cont’d): Correct. That did not occur. It was just the assault part. (pause) Like I said, after I got it all situated and, you know, buttoned up, as far as getting her in safe vehicle, under arrest, uh, that’s why I’m calling you. (pause) She just, well, she just moved here, according to her, yesterday. She’s from, uh, Illinois. (pause, inaudible) I’m not sure, I guess.

(Long pause, restarting around 29:54)

Encinia (cont’d): She gave me her driver license. I came back to the car, started running her stuff, printed it out, (inaudible) back to the car to complete, you know, tell her what’s she’s receiving, tell her what to do and so forth, and uh, at that time, she still, very much, irritate, and said that I (inaudible) pulling her over (inaudible) she didn’t turn on her signal, and so forth and so forth. She wouldn’t even look at me. She was looking straight ahead. Just mad. So. And I was at the driver’s side, so I have to get her out of the car, over to the side of the car, you know, on the sidewalk, because I don’t want to be in the middle of the road while we’re arguing or whatever.

[Note: Encinia clearly stayed at the driver’s side window the entire time with the sophomore he had pulled over previous to Bland.]

Encinia (cont’d): Well, not arguing. But I’m trying to tell her what she’s doing and she’s arguing with me. And so forth. (pause) That’s the only thing, that’s the only thing I’m leaning to. So. And then when I had her down on the ground, and the other officer told her to stop resisting, that’s when I told her you’re under arrest. (Inaudible) Least I don’t think I did. (pause)

[Not quite. Not even close.]

Encinia (cont’d): Yes. She kicked me. She started yanking away, trying to get away. And that’s when I grabbed her arm. Uh. She’s in front of me still, I controlled and I grabbed her by her shoulders, and I brought her down to the grass (inaudible). So. (pause, inaudible, pause) Like I say, with something like this, I just call you immediately after I get to a safe stopping point. (pause) I mean, no weapons. She’s in handcuffs. You know, I took the lesser of the, uh– I only took enough force as I see necessary. I even de-escalated once we were on the pavement. You know, on the sidewalk. So I allowed time. I’m not saying I just threw her to the ground. I mean, I allowed time to de-escalate and so forth. It just kept being… (laugh in response to something) Right I just. (sounds like “Make a name for her.”) Right. (pause) No I mean, I guess the cuts on my hand, I mean that’s, I guess it is injury, but I don’t need medical attention, you know. I got three little circles, I guess imprints when she was twisting away from me. (pause) You know, over a simple traffic stop. Yeah, I don’t get it. I really don’t.